Runner scam - Guild Wars Forums

waingro · Nov 09, 2006, 01:24 AM // 01:24

If someone says they are running and you pay upfront right and then they leave can you report them becuase I did and nothing happened to the guy he still talks to me i sent screenshots do they not deal with runners or runner problems?

Hockster · Nov 09, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Take it up with support.
guildwars.com>support

waingro · Nov 09, 2006, 01:32 AM // 01:32

did nothing happens they said they don't deal with runners

Spader · Nov 09, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Not using the refrence i should.

When you have a pizza delivered do you pay over the phone? The runner is both the beatter and driver delivering you the pizza/ custermer. Always pay them when they get to your door not leaving the shop.

G_MAGNUS · Nov 09, 2006, 01:40 AM // 01:40

Doesn't sound right, but you do need all the proper info for them to check on it. You need the name, time, place (including district). They can check the logs to see if it might have been a one time thing or if its a trend for that player (or at least it used to be something they did check, but haven't heard that they stopped this tipe of reporting). They will not however, tell you what steps they took. They might have just sent him a warning if it was a one time thing, could've been a temporary lockout, and so on.

waingro · Nov 09, 2006, 01:40 AM // 01:40

so not going to get this guy banned huh

Shady Rome · Nov 09, 2006, 01:45 AM // 01:45

They must be idiot's

Riken Chrono · Nov 09, 2006, 02:36 AM // 02:36

dont pay upfront. Dont trust anyone.

waingro · Nov 09, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45

yeah but is there any story of a sucessfull ban on someone like that

Sergio Leone · Nov 09, 2006, 02:52 AM // 02:52

I'm sure there have been. There used to be tons of scammers in the game. I don't know what the run was but typically the runners setup a way to pay throughout the run. So unless it's an official runner (A runner from guilds like LBS and such) or someone who has a thread (that is quite full and has good responses) I wouldn't pay upfront. If you do decide to pay upfront, ask for some collateral. If the runner is a runner you can trust he will have something of value to give as collateral or offer him your full armor (useless to them) until the end of the run and that way, they have collateral to make sure you will pay then both parties have some certainty.

Hephaestus Ram · Nov 09, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23

As far as I've seen, the game developers don't support runners
or being run, it's a transaction strictly between the runner and
the runee.

Tachyon · Nov 09, 2006, 03:46 AM // 03:46

Simple solution! Don't be a mug and pay up front, it's not that difficult a concept to understand.

$hade. · Nov 09, 2006, 03:55 AM // 03:55

Always be careful, maybe pay half and half or just pay all before you get through the last gate.

I've only been scammed once and it wasn't really a scam. He lagged out but he gave my money back

.

Kook~NBK~ · Nov 09, 2006, 04:02 AM // 04:02

NEVER PAY UP FRONT! Respectable, honest runners will never ask you to. That scam has been around since running became popular waaaayyyyy back when. All you can do is take the SS's and report the bum to a-net.

Former Ruling · Nov 09, 2006, 06:03 AM // 06:03

As for him getting in Trouble...Probably wont happen. Saddly. Not really Anet's fault per say, theres just really too much shady business going on and they have to prioritize what they deal with.

That doesn't need you shouldnt report though.

Rich_Izy · Nov 09, 2006, 06:07 AM // 06:07

not unless you buy a run in the service forums

I've paid upfront and experienced no scams at all

Xceran · Nov 09, 2006, 06:47 AM // 06:47

*edited*

Thought about my post for a while, and realized how stupid it was, so I deleted it again since it didn´t bring anything new to the discussion.

spiritofdead · Nov 09, 2006, 10:02 AM // 10:02

Never pay anyone upfront for anything, you should best expected that this person will run away with your golds.

Deadly Eyezz · Nov 09, 2006, 04:00 PM // 16:00

Getting scamed is your fault.

Sofonisba · Nov 09, 2006, 04:30 PM // 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadly Eyezz

Getting scamed is your fault.

Yeah, um, no.

There are certain things you can do to prevent being scammed, but getting scammed is the scammer's fault, not yours.

We lock the door on our house. But if we forget one day, and someone goes in and steals our computer and our cookie jar, is the thief excused?

It's stupid/irresponsible to leave your house unlocked, but a thief is a thief. Period.

Nov 09, 2006, 01:24 AM // 01:24	#1
waingro Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2006	Runner scam If someone says they are running and you pay upfront right and then they leave can you report them becuase I did and nothing happened to the guy he still talks to me i sent screenshots do they not deal with runners or runner problems?

Nov 09, 2006, 06:47 AM // 06:47	#17
Xceran Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Guild: nwo Profession: R/	edited Thought about my post for a while, and realized how stupid it was, so I deleted it again since it didn´t bring anything new to the discussion. Last edited by Xceran; Nov 09, 2006 at 06:49 AM // 06:49..

Nov 09, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28	#2
Hockster Banned Join Date: Jul 2005	Take it up with support. guildwars.com>support

Nov 09, 2006, 01:32 AM // 01:32	#3
waingro Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2006	did nothing happens they said they don't deal with runners

Nov 09, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38	#4
Spader Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2006 Profession: W/Mo	Not using the refrence i should. When you have a pizza delivered do you pay over the phone? The runner is both the beatter and driver delivering you the pizza/ custermer. Always pay them when they get to your door not leaving the shop.

Nov 09, 2006, 01:40 AM // 01:40	#5
G_MAGNUS Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: La Legion Del Dragon [LD] Profession: W/	Doesn't sound right, but you do need all the proper info for them to check on it. You need the name, time, place (including district). They can check the logs to see if it might have been a one time thing or if its a trend for that player (or at least it used to be something they did check, but haven't heard that they stopped this tipe of reporting). They will not however, tell you what steps they took. They might have just sent him a warning if it was a one time thing, could've been a temporary lockout, and so on.

Nov 09, 2006, 01:45 AM // 01:45	#7
Shady Rome Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2006	They must be idiot's

Nov 09, 2006, 02:36 AM // 02:36	#8
Riken Chrono Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: around the corner and up the block Guild: Hero	dont pay upfront. Dont trust anyone.

Nov 09, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45	#9
waingro Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2006	yeah but is there any story of a sucessfull ban on someone like that

Nov 09, 2006, 02:52 AM // 02:52	#10
Sergio Leone Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Guild: The International Terrorists [USA] Profession: W/Mo	I'm sure there have been. There used to be tons of scammers in the game. I don't know what the run was but typically the runners setup a way to pay throughout the run. So unless it's an official runner (A runner from guilds like LBS and such) or someone who has a thread (that is quite full and has good responses) I wouldn't pay upfront. If you do decide to pay upfront, ask for some collateral. If the runner is a runner you can trust he will have something of value to give as collateral or offer him your full armor (useless to them) until the end of the run and that way, they have collateral to make sure you will pay then both parties have some certainty.

Nov 09, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23	#11
Hephaestus Ram Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: None Profession: W/E	As far as I've seen, the game developers don't support runners or being run, it's a transaction strictly between the runner and the runee.

Nov 09, 2006, 03:46 AM // 03:46	#12
Tachyon Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stoke, England Guild: The Godless [GOD] Profession: W/	Simple solution! Don't be a mug and pay up front, it's not that difficult a concept to understand.

Nov 09, 2006, 03:55 AM // 03:55	#13
$hade. Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Guild: [FiRM[] Profession: R/	Always be careful, maybe pay half and half or just pay all before you get through the last gate. I've only been scammed once and it wasn't really a scam. He lagged out but he gave my money back .

Nov 09, 2006, 04:02 AM // 04:02	#14
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	NEVER PAY UP FRONT! Respectable, honest runners will never ask you to. That scam has been around since running became popular waaaayyyyy back when. All you can do is take the SS's and report the bum to a-net.

Nov 09, 2006, 06:03 AM // 06:03	#15
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	As for him getting in Trouble...Probably wont happen. Saddly. Not really Anet's fault per say, theres just really too much shady business going on and they have to prioritize what they deal with. That doesn't need you shouldnt report though.

Nov 09, 2006, 06:07 AM // 06:07	#16
Rich_Izy Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/A	not unless you buy a run in the service forums I've paid upfront and experienced no scams at all

Nov 09, 2006, 10:02 AM // 10:02	#18
spiritofdead Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: Mo/W	Never pay anyone upfront for anything, you should best expected that this person will run away with your golds.

Nov 09, 2006, 04:00 PM // 16:00	#19
Deadly Eyezz Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2006	Getting scamed is your fault.